Rant: Don’t be an ‘influencer’
In a break from our usual programming I want to share with you all some of the nonsense I have been through recently.
As some of you may know, I have a moderately successful instagram account (You can see it here, please be nice). I enjoy it and it is also an important part of my business in terms of visibility and building the JCH brand.
Unfortunately there is a whole tide of utter cobblers that seems to come with this. Call it the caveat if you like. The never ending torrent of ‘influencers’.
Influence
In case you don’t know what an influencer is, consider yourself very fortunate and don’t bother to continue reading as it will only sully you. But if you do know, read on.
Now these people are not really actual influencers, they are people who have decided that is their job title, as ‘semi professional blagger’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. They have an entire business model predicated on the idea that they are special and you should be honored to give them something. No skill, no talent, just a huge amount hubris.
I used to get them every now and again, but not really that often. I have a bit of a niche page and it doesn’t attract those dummies that can be seen promoting the tea that makes you poop yourself thin.
Most were fairly innocuous, they slide into your DM’s and you basically ignore them. Occasionally you would get someone who would give you a whole spiel about being a struggling entrepreneur, which I would sometimes respond to.
This was a particular favourite. After trying to blag some free cameras through endless pestering, I told him no, stating the reasons why. He didn’t take it well, as you can see…
You can usually tell when they are going to get a bit rude and this guy was no exception. He had a real way with words.
Escalation
But recently things starting getting out of hand. They were no longer entertaining and were becoming an annoyance. Constant messages asking for free stuff. And I have had enough.
I am tired of their hustling and their crappy attitudes. So I am going to share some of the more recent ones here, and I am not hiding their details as they need to be called out for this awful behaviour.
this phenomena is not limited to IG. I get mails from ‘influence marketers’, text messages and sometimes phone calls. And every single time they become indignant when you call them out on their nonsense. It has become so frequent that I now have a boilerplate reply for when they get in touch.
The standard
First up, the standard boilerplate message. I have no idea how they think this will work. I usually don’t even bother to reply to these ones.
Followed by the I cannot even be bothered to follow you, but I saw your stuff on explore and I want some. I guess she didn’t like my response as she never ordered anything.
But then things got worse. Sure there was still the usual nonsense, but then I started to get messages from people who literally have nothing in common with cameras at all. They are taking a scattergun approach to try and get anything they possibly can. Is this because they don’t actually get paid?
This one sent me a message, which I ignored. She then sent me an email claiming to have spoken to me about a collaboration on IG, which was a lie, attaching her media kit and a price list. She was seriously expecting me to send her a camera to keep and pay her to feature it on her social media (which has about 1/5th the followers or mine). She was not impressed when I said no and tried to pull the victim card. I have decided not to share her response as it is so utterly frustrating you may threaten your screen.
Enter the douchebags
But then this week, it really went off. Normally I wouldn’t have bothered replying to these lugnuts, but typhoon Hagibis is battering my house at the moment and I don’t have a lot to do. So as far as I was concerned I should use my time constructively.
This chap messaged me and then almost instantly emailed me with the same guff as everyone else.
So I decided to answer in the most direct way I know how. Someone has to tell them.
Evidently he didn’t seem to be joking.
That didn’t take long. I guess he knew when his chips were cooked. He was at least relatively polite, which is more than can be said for the next one.
I aM a CeLEbrItY
But then this guy came along and things got out of hand real fast.
Hmmm, 500K+ followers? I wonder what he wants?
I can already see where this is headed. Anyone dumb enough to send this guy a camera (or anything) needs their head examined. So I gave him my standard reply.
He didn’t like that, at all… So much so that he deleted his ‘vlogging’ message and sent me something a little less refined.
Wow. That escalated quickly. How this guy has a blue checkmark is beyond me. But then he tops it off with something rare, something truly special…
DoNT YoU KnOw wHo I aM?
OMG he actually said it! And then he blocked me. Such a shame that I have a backup account that I can use to share this charming chaps ‘influencer life’. Apparently he is a rapper and singer, with a ton of fake followers. It would be a real shame if people were to report him and he were to lose that check mark.
The end of influence
The whole concept of an ‘influencer’ bothers me. Society has been pushed the idea that you can be famous for the sake of being famous, and you can get there by any means necessary. But this simply is not the case. I worked very hard to get where I am and I didn’t ask for anything for free, I still don’t. So why should I give them anything?
The unfortunate side effect of this is that genuine people who need help get overlooked. I am still open to giving to people who deserve it. But these people are usually easy to spot and are not rude.
We are in danger of being inured to these attitudes and becoming indifferent to actual people that need a bit of a leg up. The best thing we can do in my opinion is simply report the fake ‘influencers’ . We must try to remember that we all started at the bottom once and holding the ladder is a responsibility for those who have already made their way up. Don’t forget to be human.
Trust me when I tell you this is a tiny portion of the messages I receive from these types.
TLDR. Rude people on the internet get shamed for being rude.
Cheers
JCH
LOVED THIS POST. Good on ya’ mate!
A brilliant and much needed article that brings this kind of bullshit influencer behaviour into the light. Thanks for sharing!
You have a way with words mate, what a brilliant read!
Definitely something that hit a sore spot. I get asked the same, and I don’t even sell anything! Whole influencer concept is bullshit, thinking they can replace a good marketing and advertising plan..
Yeah. The sense of entitlement is truly through the roof these days. They can also barely string a proper sentence together too. 😆
I stopped using “social media” a couple of years back. I stopped using Facebook at least 5 years ago. I stopped using Instagram at least 3 years ago. I’ve never used Snapchat or anything like that. I stopped using Twitter more than a year ago.
I never looked back.
All of these platforms steal attention, focus, lifetime – they are UTTERLY useless and deceiving.
I don’t have to run my own business and promote my own brand – granted.
Glad to see others stand up to ‘influencers’. Coming from a hospitality background its amazing what they expect for essentially nothing in return. Keep up the good work! And hope you and family/friends stay safe!
How many Bell Ends do you have to deal with!!
The best revenge I saw are the people who scam the scammers, make them jump through stupid hoops and do idiotic stuff before them to piss off. There is a guy who famously does that to Nigerian scammers, not sure how you can combat these parasites.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/north-america/ice-cream-truck-owner-wins-over-the-internet-with-his-swipe-at-social-media-influencers/news-story/6b5f7ee50dffd53633cc63058c929cf8
https://onemileatatime.com/hotel-influencer-controversy/
I love your approach. I’d do the same thing.
Influencers are a pox on humanity. I guess you could call them part of the grifter economy.
Brilliantly entertaining post. Who the hell are these people ?. Unfortunately we live in a rather screwed up world.
Had a little look at our lad Birdmanbofficial: Mostly writes in arabic and appears to be the “I’m so famous but also your hot local rapper boi” type, but from august on he starts posting in English more often and all of the sudden he has items taking the limelight from his biceps. I think it’s telling that his first products are vaping machines and that they do the whole “zoom in and out quickly” very poorly. You have to wonder what a young Algerian girl is going to get from some lad trying to vape from a Leica.
Makes me wonder how he got his tick mark. I have applied at least 10 times for JCH and have always been refused.
Well, if I were a cynical man, I would say that social media companies base their distribution of verified marks more on the basis of whether or not the companies affiliated with such a person are large enough to be to influence said social media. But I’d have to a cynical man embittered by the state of online culture and its impact on modern society to actually think that clique behaviour and status are more important than actual deeds and a quantifiable and confirmed reputation as someone who conduct business properly…
…a very very cynical man.
You can just straight-up pay for a blue checkmark. There are tons of rogue people who work for Instagram who sell them through back channels. It’s all a fugazi.
I saw most of those in your IG story already but this post offers some interesting insights. Made my day.
Man, I get this crap from “SHIT HOT” FASHION INFLUENCERS.
What gets me the most is that they actually don’t understand your business model at ALL.
“Send me a camera and I can do an unboxing!”
“if you send me a really expensive camera we can collab and mention you and i get to keep the camera etc etc etc”
I’ve been working within the area of social media for 4 years or so and 80-85% of these people are genuinely here to swindle you.
Giving you low effort content for free items, it varies from sector to sector. I’m tempted to call it “Magpie Syndrome”, always wanting shiny things from others but always giving you wank content.
The moment the world realised Instagram, Youtube, Twitter, Twitch etc could yield you free shit. the concept of being an Influencer, a true influencer, fell into the darkest and dingiest parts of hell.
Ahh, so that’s what a “collab” is
Excellent!. The description I’ve best heard for influencers is oxygen thieves.
Magnificent response to this kind of morons.
Thanks for sharing Bellamy. The most frustrating thing I find with these “influencers” is just their laziness, as you said to them, they have nothing to do with your service/brand. But even more frustrating is the fact that some poor souls will take them up on their shitty offers.
What’s odd is that they don’t realize you’re just a retailer, so any review an influencer makes of the product you sent to them for free would actually benefit every camera shop carrying the same product, completely undermining the purpose.
Bravo.
I feel for you. The first time I heard the “influencer” term, my teens had to explain it to me. 🤯 BOGGLES the mind. People who call themselves Influencers… like it’s something special. 🤣 Yeah. Just no. Work for what you want. (P.S. We are all “influencers” within our own circles and communities too. But we still WORK for what we have and want.) I rant too. Not because I have these people coming to me. But these stupid people are influencing others to be egocentric, entitled, and shallow. They are not who I want my kids to see and learn from. Rant done.
wow I never imagined it would be this bad Bellamy. What a time to be alive man. Can’t help and laughed at a few of these ones though. I loved the guy wanting to vLog with one of your products…. kids huh?
Loved reading this, and learned a few choice insults while at it – ‘pancake’ being my favourite! :)
¡Ditto!
As a social media manager for a few photo brands – this is my life, all day, every day…
Reported the guy. What an idiot.
Well influencer…so if l drive the car l’m a pilot or a writer because l can post this comment, l should think for some update in my next name card! Btw if l m on you l ll not spend time for replay but immediately block all this stupid so called “influencer”, basically useless peoples without no job and no brain for start one.
Anyway can you send me a free summicron? I have 18 followers but if add my uncle and his friend guess worth try 😀
I am so sorry you’re dealing with these weasels. Thank you for what you do for the community, and thank you for being principled.
What I find saddest about this is the first interaction I had with you, you did sort me out for free!
I needed some film and having just moved to Asia I couldn’t find anywhere locally to buy it so I emailed you to get me some in Japan, which you did, and then very firmly refused payment for your services, I just covered costs.
It was extremely generous of you to give up your time like that and a perfect example of how to actually build a community online.
Please keep being you and try to ignore the fucknuts – a lot of us (who do know what a Summicron is!) really appreciate it.
Thank you for posting this!
I have a wellbeing brand that i’ve built myself and sadly fell for one of these requests from a celebrity WHO WAS FAMOUS FOR BEING RICH. She asked for a free product (worth well over £150) in exchange for promotion – and she totally scammed me. no follow through and to this day claims she plans to do it.
Its scamming and begging and its not even paying their bills :(
I wish there was a place where we could all submit our experiences and expose them for it!
I hear you on this. I have had some seriously famous celebs/rappers/models hit me up for free stuff. Not a single one of them actually followed through. Not one of them mentioned my feed. Not one of them paid a penny. Not one of them even said thank you. And this is what gets me, they are rich. They make plenty of money, more than we will ever make in our lifetimes, yet the still try to get something for free from people that cannot really afford it. The idea of celebrity is a broken one.
100% certain Birdman is shooting heroine In that first shot.
Funny not funny?
Not to laugh at others misery but their occupation should be known as unprofessional needy troll. Yuck.
Never stop calling bullsh*t what it is ✊🏾
I had no idea what an influencer was and I’m pretty appalled by it all. They are they Trumps/BorisJohnsons of this world.
How the hell do they get the ticks after their names? That’s an interesting one to take up with Instagram,
I feel vindicated in not posting much any more. All the fun of instagram has been drained out of it by these f**kwits.
I had no idea what an influencer was and I’m pretty appalled by it all. They are they Trumps/BorisJohnsons of this world.
How the hell do they get the ticks after their names? That’s an interesting one to take up with Instagram,
I feel vindicated in not posting much any more. All the fun of instagram has been drained out of it by these f**kwits.
Simply brilliant and neatly highlights the concern many genuine hard working people and businesses have. I recently spent about 2 days research following Instagram brands who were reputedly active in my field and who had contacted me or followed me for no apparent reason. They quickly become easy to spot. In fact, a local “competitor” of mine in my chosen field of photography seemed to have a ridiculously large, popular IG account. I could not understand how his ahem “wonderful” images were getting so many likes and how he had so many followers. Yep, all fake….
The only critique as a Brit was that I would have used more swear words in your response, always incorporate “Cockney rhyming slang” and call them a wanker, especially the women. Best from Cabo and cheers, Ton
You have to make this a regular series. Btw, a lot of big Youtube photography channels are not much better, and they really have influence in the photography world, at least among hobbyists. Not sure if you follow this, but TN slammed Nikon Z 50 recently (“The Z50 is a HUGE mistake”) with some bogus reasons, and I think it might be because he was excluded from getting a preproduction sample from Nikon.
WOW some people have serious issues! Good on you Bellamy for still being here even after all that crap. Love you site.
Good for you Bellamy! Well done!!
Amen to this…
Man. I wonder how many people fall for this scam, paying hundreds of dollars for marketing to a bunch of bots/fake followers. Gotta love how the last guy resorted to all the typical insults you hear in a video game. I love that you posted this online for the world to see. I don’t think many of us have ever seen this side of that world. Its incredible, really. Its the new-age MLM/Ponzi scheme.
Cheers
Great post !!! 👏
Bellamy,
You have pointed a finger at the most ridiculous thing going on the internet today. Fake celebrities, “influencers”, pieces of shit.
Bunch of privileged twats.
It would be fun to start hooking these guys up with other Internet scammers, e.g. “Hello, InfluencerGuy, I are very interest in having you influence for me, I will send you certified check for $1000 and then you send half of it to my friend by Western Uonion and he will send u the products.” Seems like a marriage made in, er, somewhere…
Ackkkk posts like this. Firstly, hands up, I’m an “influencer” – I started off as a blogger who basically just wanted to create something that would match my wage as a retail assistant so I could spend more time with my kids. It evolved to “influencer” level on Instagram and via the blog, it’s now a 6 figure limited marketing company – and it came from 6 years of hard slog (with no pay for any advertising, working in an every day job and raising my 3 under 3s – not a complaint, just the facts). I hate seeing these posts moaning about influencers and how it isn’t a job and we’re all fakes etc. It’s a job. A hard one if you’re doing it right and not prancing around asking for freebies. If these guys are pitching to people for free or paid content via DMs they aren’t influencers but frauds. Why not call them that? Why does every article have to be about how influencers are scammers? I’m not. I sell the hell out of the stuff I promote and have the trackable links, screenshots of stats etc to give to my clients to prove I’ve been of worth to them. That is what digital marketing should be. Don’t tar us all by these utter idiots begging for freebies. Surely you can see that is just as frustrating as people who say “ooh make sure you go to a Proper retailer like Curry’s for your camera and don’t shop online – so many cowboys.” We’re not all dicks. Some of us just want to create our content (on my camera I bought myself) and I earn a wage whilst we’re at it.
Just ignore these jerks. Don’t respond to their scamming attempts. Life is too short to waste time on csuch crap.
Or agree to send them a camera if they pay $XXX for shipping and handling. Then send them a well-used brick.
I do customer service for a small consumer products company out of Portland, OR — I answer all the emails and social media messages, and I couldn’t agree with this more. I even recognize a few of these names!
Cheers Bellamy for writing this! Nice insight into the nasty world of a-socialmedia. Keep up what you do best :-) love this site
Hi Bellamy
While I feel your pain and understand your frustration I think the best thing to do is ignore these people. Just don’t engage them at all. Don’t “feed the troll”, they don’t deserve even a polite reply from you. The world has always been full of scammers and grifters, and the internet has just made it easier for them. You and I will never change them. Why work when you can scam people into giving you stuff?
With great respect.
Good on you mate
Calling it out for what it really is
Wonder if the careers day at school has an influencer section hehehe
On point, mate. Keep it up!
Thank you for this. What a great post. Social media along with ‘influencers’ is really screwing up this world. And it’s only going to get worse. I just don’t see where it’s all going to end.
You have too much patience, I wouldn’t even have bothered to read them, they sound more like scammers than “influencers”. They didn’t even know that you were selling cameras, just products. Don’t waste your time with these scrounging scumbags…
you worked hard
in relative or absolute terminology?
but you’re right, too many self-procclaimed influencers around
but those were around before social networks
remember the work-day-week shows nobody watched but created views and influencers of the same kind already?
where there is water, sun and earth, there is fowling mudd, so what.
Kudos, Bellamy!
B*cth-slap these empty-suiters!
Parasites of the lowest order, just beneath the phylum, ‘Lawyers’.
great post Bellamy. The amount of comments means you must be making a point. Fuck the influcancers, and keep it up (as always).
Regards
Genius writing! It’s not very often a written article actually makes me laugh while reading, but this one did. I can’t get over you having to deal with that kind of thing. Extremely well said, and fair play for naming and shaming.
Loved this post! So true.
I am neither an influencer, nor run a business that can potentially need/be contacted by influencers, so I only hear stories about them – almost invariably negative – when people take the time to rant about them.
The hotel who refused a request to let an inflencer stay for free in exchange for a free post.
The guy selling camera gear who refuses offers to be featured on an influencer IG feed in exchange for a free camera. (hint hint!)
Etc.
But recently I watched a video from a guy who challanges himself to set up online businesses in a limited amount of time. Not surprisingly, he relies on influencers to quickly get some clients.
He contacts influencers himself, and offers them money for a free post / review on their feed. That’s how it works, right?
That made me thinking.
The problem is not influencers. They are the by-product of social networks.
The problem is that social network try their best to make as many people addicted to them as possible. Influencers just realized they can be social networks within social networks. They have their own clean and dirty tricks to make people who are addicted to the social network they use, addicted to them.
Then sell (the attention of) their junkies to the highest bidder.
It must work I guess. You can’t imagine how much not-so-useful stuff I bought because I watched an unboxing or review video on youtube or IG posts. While these are not strickly speaking all influencers as per above definition, they did influence my purchases.
Sometimes I discover good products I am super happy about (Zenza Bronica SQ-A, Olympus 35SP), often times I just go into a rabbit hole spending money when I don’t need to (50k worth of fountain pens – could probably get a restored 空き家 for that much!).
I think the world would be a much better place with less social networks (and influencers will be a thing of the past)
keep going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is interesting. i did not know influencers “work” (let’s say “act”). just once a coffee owner complained to me about them and their offers. now how see the shit they are. keep up the good work. we ware the real followers and clients of your work
In one of the screenshots he answers “Im gonna start vlogging soon” to one of your messages. In the next screenshot, we can still see your message, but with a different reply, which is now an insult. So I guess all of these are made in photoshop. Better luck next time.
He deleted his message and the re-wrote it. But if you want to think that I have spend hours photoshopping (when I barely know how to use it) then fine by me mate.
you are a bold man. Kudos to you.
Nice work! Well social media is head to a weird place now. It is jus time to seat and watch.